When it comes to the resistance, things really haven’t changed for Ben Winters since the beginning.

There was a point in time in Winters’ creative and vocational journey in which he wasn’t the best-selling author that he is today. There was no hit TV show or comic anthologies or literary awards yet either. It was a time defined by distraction and anxiety, along with the excitement of what could be.

That’s basically how he describes his posture today.

I fell in love with Winters’ writing after reading his novels Underground Airlines and Golden State several years ago. But you might know him from his Edgar Award-winning novel, The Last Policeman, or his most recent release, Big Time. Then again, maybe you’ll recognize his work as the creator and writer for the CBS hit show Tracker or his work on other shows like Legion or Manhunt. That doesn’t even touch the other books, comics, audio works for Audible, short stories, and even plays.

Winters has credits aplenty, but I found him grounded and engaging from the jump. Our conversation about the way resistance works in his creative life included several snippets I’ve been chewing on ever since, and it’s clear that success hasn’t really changed him all that much. Or at least, it hasn’t taken away the same types of resistance that have plagued him from the start.

For anyone with creative hopes out there in any form, we think you’re going to get a lot out of this episode of The Resistance. Here’s our conversation with Ben Winters.

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